Legislature(1993 - 1994)

03/02/1994 08:30 AM House FSH

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              HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON FISHERIES                             
                          March 2, 1994                                        
                            8:30 a.m.                                          
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
  Representative Carl E. Moses, Chair                                          
  Representative Harley Olberg, Vice Chair                                     
  Representative Irene Nicholia                                                
  Representative Cliff Davidson                                                
  Representative Gail Phillips                                                 
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
  None                                                                         
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
  HJR 59:       Relating to reduction of wanton waste                          
                in North Pacific Ocean and Bering Sea                          
                fisheries.                                                     
                                                                               
                ADOPTED CSHJR 59 AND PASSED OUT OF                             
                COMMITTEE.                                                     
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
  CHERYL SUTTON,  Committee Aide                                               
  House Fisheries Committee                                                    
  Alaska State Legislature                                                     
  P.O. Box 1182                                                                
  Juneau, Alaska 99811                                                         
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Explained the proposed committee                        
                       substitute for HJR 59.                                  
                                                                               
  RICK LAUBER                                                                  
  Pacific Seafood Processors Association                                       
  321 Highland Drive                                                           
  Juneau, Alaska 99801                                                         
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HJR 59.                         
                                                                               
  GERON BRUCE, Legislative Liaison                                             
  Department of Fish and Game                                                  
  P.O. Box 25526                                                               
  Juneau, Alaska 99802                                                         
  POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HJR 59.                         
                                                                               
  PREVIOUS ACTION                                                              
                                                                               
  BILL:  HJR 59                                                                
  SHORT TITLE: WANTON WASTE OF FISH N.PACIFIC/BERING SEA                       
  SPONSOR(S): RULES                                                            
                                                                               
  JRN-DATE     JRN-PG               ACTION                                     
  02/18/94      2457    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME/REFERRAL(S)                  
  02/18/94      2457    (H)   FSH, RESOURCES                                   
  03/02/94              (H)   FSH AT 08:30 AM CAPITOL 17                       
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-11, SIDE A                                                           
  Number 001                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN CARL MOSES called the House Special Committee on                    
  Fisheries meeting to order at 8:37 a.m.                                      
  HJR 59 - WANTON WASTE OF FISH N.PACIFIC/BERING SEA                           
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN MOSES announced the only order of business would be                 
  HJR 59, Relating to reduction of wanton waste in North                       
  Pacific Ocean and Bering Sea fisheries.  He noted the bill                   
  was sponsored through the House Rules Committee.                             
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN MOSES read the following statement into the record:                 
                                                                               
  "House Joint Resolution 59 addresses an issue of immediate                   
  concern to Alaska and its commercial fishing industry.  In a                 
  May 1993, report prepared for the Alaska Department of Fish                  
  and Game by Pacific Associates, the wanton waste of fishery                  
  resources in the North Pacific Ocean and Bering Sea                          
  fisheries was documented.                                                    
                                                                               
  "Discards of either dead or live fishery resources occur in                  
  these commercial fisheries for three basic reasons:                          
  economics, management policies and fishing practices.                        
  Discards sometimes occur because of the economic loss                        
  associated with processing the entire harvest.  When species                 
  of little or no value are harvested along with the target                    
  species, there is no real economic incentive to discourage                   
  discarding."                                                                 
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN MOSES noted there is a proposed committee                           
  substitute which corrects some technical errors.                             
                                                                               
  CHERYL SUTTON, Committee Aide, House Fisheries Committee,                    
  came before the committee to explain the proposed changes.                   
  She referred to page one, line nine, of the original                         
  legislation, and said "20,000,000 pounds," was incorrect.                    
  It should read "20,000,000 crabs."  Ms. Sutton said a new                    
  "Whereas" section was added on page two, "Whereas fisheries                  
  can technically or operationally reduce waste or the                         
  incidental taking of nontarget species if given economic                     
  incentives or through appropriate regulatory measures;"  She                 
  explained another change related to rearranging the words on                 
  page two, in the "Be It Resolved" section.  The words were                   
  changed to read, "ecologically, socially, and economically;"                 
                                                                               
  Number 084                                                                   
                                                                               
  RICK LAUBER, representing the Pacific Seafood Processors                     
  Association, explained he is the Chairman of the North                       
  Pacific Fishery Management Council.  He said the Pacific                     
  Seafood Processors Association endorses the concept of the                   
  resolution.  He noted that Senator Murkowski has introduced                  
  legislation that would allow the North Pacific Fishery                       
  Management Council to address the problem, and Senator                       
  Stevens also plans to introduce legislation.                                 
                                                                               
  MR. LAUBER said he feels the amount of waste that is                         
  occurring in the North Pacific is obscene.  Many vessels                     
  don't have to pay for their fish, so there is no incentive                   
  to process their catch.  We should be moving towards a                       
  policy which would require that if you catch it, you keep it                 
  and use it in some way.  Mr. Lauber discussed a practice                     
  called "bleeding the web" where a string on the net is                       
  pulled and the fish are allowed to float out.  He said he                    
  has seen pictures where there was an appearance where you                    
  could walk across the ocean.  There has also been evidence                   
  in that because the fish is concentrated when it sinks to                    
  the bottom, it further sours the bottom, harming the                         
  scallops.  Mr. Lauber said he realizes that it could be                      
  costly to his industry, but he thinks that it is worthwhile.                 
  He urged passage of the resolution.                                          
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS asked if other nations in other                      
  ocean systems are concerned about this problem.                              
                                                                               
  MR. LAUBER said unless regulated, it is a prevalent                          
  practice, particularly with vessels which catch and process                  
  their product.  He continued to discuss the subject of                       
  discarding fish carcasses.                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 236                                                                   
                                                                               
  GERON BRUCE, Legislative Liaison, Department of Fish and                     
  Game, testified in support of the resolution.  The Governor                  
  has called the discard and waste occuring in the North                       
  Pacific an economic and social disaster on the order of the                  
  Prince William Sound oil spill.  He said the administration                  
  is very concerned about the issue and would like to see it                   
  addressed.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 248                                                                   
                                                                               
  There being no further testimony on HJR 59, REPRESENTATIVE                   
  PHILLIPS moved to adopt CSHJR 59.  There being no objection,                 
  the motion carried.                                                          
                                                                               
  Representative  Phillips  moved to  pass  CSHJR 59  from the                 
  House Special Committee on Fisheries.  Hearing no objection,                 
  it was so ordered.                                                           
                                                                               
  Number 253                                                                   
                                                                               
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  There  being  no   further  business  to  come   before  the                 
  committee, CHAIRMAN MOSES adjourned the meeting at 9:55 a.m.                 

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